where are the applications located?

georgc · Post by **georgc** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 6:34 pm

i want to add kmail and ark to xfce but i cant find the executiables. when i use the search the thing continually searches a file that says access denied

Sniper Fox · Post by **Sniper Fox** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 7:56 pm

The only button you need in XFCE is the "ToKDE" one

If you (for some weird reason) don't want to use that button, you have to add each and every item by hand (YAY!)

Open a terminal, run 'locate foo | grep bin'. This will find every file that has 'foo' in the path and return only those with 'foo' AND 'bin' in the path. This will generally find any executable file quickly. If it doesn't, omit the '| grep bin' and look through the huge list for the one that you think is probably the binary.

Copy the whole line of the result you're looking for and paste it into the command box for your XFCE menu item and away you go!

Post by **ShALLaX** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:20 pm

Only an idiot would switch from XFCE to KDE.

Sniper Fox · Post by **Sniper Fox** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 9:04 pm

Heh

That would make a cool confirmation dialog box for when you press the ToKDE button.

Code: Select all

Only an idiot would switch from XFCE to KDE!
Are you sure you want to do that to yourself?
[Yes] / [No]

georgc · Post by **georgc** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 10:57 pm

Only an idiot would switch from XFCE to KDE.

whys that?

nobspangle · Post by **nobspangle** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 10:59 pm

georgc wrote: whys that?

http://gentoox.shallax.com/modules.php? ... le&sid=112
That's why

georgc · Post by **georgc** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 11:06 pm

^^^^^^^

i thought thats why

also if i want to open a terminal or a filemanager as a root user how do i do that?

in KDE it had a box that u could check to open the program as root

Sniper Fox · Post by **Sniper Fox** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 1:41 pm

Apparently, it's idiotic to choose usability over speed. Which is ironic since this is a linux distro (more usable) rather than an xbox version of FreeBSD (faster).

Standing by to receive linux zealot "BSD is dead!" flames

. Fire them up!

Oh, also. OpenOffice.org 1.1 text document loads in 94 seconds under KDE and 92 under XFCE.... That much usability loss for 2 seconds out of 94.

Test config: GentooX 3.0, console logged of and sitting at text mode log on prompt, FTPd & webmin disabled, connected via SSH tunneled VNC. KDE alarm daemon and tray icon stopped.

Instead of flaming, why don't you let people try both and make their own decisions?

Sniper Fox · Post by **Sniper Fox** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 1:43 pm

georgc wrote:also if i want to open a terminal or a filemanager as a root user how do i do that?

instead of "foo" make your command line "kdesu -- foo"

You can still use KDE apps, they'll just take longer to load since none of their libraries are loaded.

Post by **ShALLaX** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 2:14 pm

Yes, but openoffice itself takes about 2x as long to load in kde, as does XFCE. And if you walk away from KDE it starts caching to hell and the mouse cursor freezes up for about 5 seconds.

BOZOUK · Post by **BOZOUK** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 7:44 pm

BTW, here are the apps you need :
/usr/kde/3.1/bin

there are other apps from KDE that may be usefull.

I have a similar question :

If i move to KDE, there is the gimp avaible. ( i remember from the last version of gentoox )
That means that The Gimp exist and it is compress somewhere.
How to install it under Xfce ?
Do i need to do an 'emerge' and install all dependencies ?
Is there no way to 'switch' the KDE link to the Xfce ?

thanks

georgc · Post by **georgc** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:45 pm

instead of "foo" make your command line "kdesu -- foo"

You can still use KDE apps, they'll just take longer to load since none of their libraries are loaded.

will it prompt me to enter my password 4 root?

Sniper Fox · Post by **Sniper Fox** » Thu Nov 06, 2003 3:39 pm

georgc wrote:will it prompt me to enter my password 4 root?

Yes it will, and you'll also have the option to "ignore" and continue on with as non-root.

For instance for, after I installed Kportage (an EXCELLENT utility, way better than using emerge from the command line) I added "kdesu -- kportage" to my desktop. If I just want to browse what's installed, I can Ignore the KDESU box and go on as gentoox, but if I want to install new apps or delete old ones I enter the root pass.

Sniper Fox · Post by **Sniper Fox** » Thu Nov 06, 2003 3:45 pm

BOZOUK wrote:I have a similar question :

If i move to KDE, there is the gimp avaible. ( i remember from the last version of gentoox )
That means that The Gimp exist and it is compress somewhere.
How to install it under Xfce ?
Do i need to do an 'emerge' and install all dependencies ?
Is there no way to 'switch' the KDE link to the Xfce ?

thanks

You can 'emerge gimp' from a command line (as root), but there are LOTS of dependencies.

[ebuild N ] dev-perl/Text-Balanced-1.95
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/Parse-RecDescent-1.94
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/gtk-perl-0.7008-r9
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/File-Spec-0.84-r1
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/Data-Dumper-2.101
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/Inline-0.44
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/Filter-1.29
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/ExtUtils-F77-1.14-r1
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/PDL-2.4.0-r1
[ebuild N ] media-libs/mpeg-lib-1.3.1-r1
[ebuild N ] media-gfx/gimp-1.2.5

GIMP uses GTK libraries (From the desktop environment GNOME), which aren't loaded normally (hint: this means more memory usage). GIMP itself is also pretty memory hungry, so it might be best to leave your media editing on your regular PC.

If you try KDE and decide you want XFCE's low footprint over KDE's high usability, simply type 'magic xfce' at a command prompt (as root) and reboot. There is also 'magic no-kde', but i'm not really sure what it does.

fuz · Post by **fuz** » Fri Nov 07, 2003 9:26 am

Sniper Fox - you must be a gimp... you are telling me you would rather have a bloated gui than a light streamline one? thats proposterous